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Aug 11, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
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DoA fast fullruns - Life after Ursan
Hi all,
We know Ursan is gone now, but I took the time to write a 'guide' to go on with killing enemies in DoA: DoA 'balanced'. It contains the build, the synergies, your jobs, the enemies and priorities in the killing proces. I suggest you read it all (also, not only the part of the guide describing your build, but really all), even if you think you're already experienced in DoA. It's rather lenghty, but it will make victory go much smoother and tells you how to use the builds etc. First, I will give the builds, later the armies and in which order we have to kill them. This is what this guide consists off: 1. Builds 2. Armies and their priorities 3. Rezzing 4. Last notes 5. Latest build version + variants 6. Q/A 1. First, the builds. They are based, like IM, on the fact that buffed physicals deal the highest damage in the game. So expect orders, splinter weapon and more buffs to assure the greatest damage in game: The IM-based-Build: Divert hexes monk  Divert Hexes: Because there are way too many hexes that can shut down the team Reversal of Fortune: Obvious reasons Signet of rejuvenation: A signet (gives you energy with para shout) that also heals a bit Shield of Absorption: Obvious reasons Protective Spirit: Obvious reasons Dismiss condition: Dangerous conditions like blind/daze need to get removed Glyph of lesser Energy: obvious reasons Aegis: Physical shutdown, you need to chain with other monk 12+1+1 Protection Prayers (NO superior rune, max health makes you get attacked less) 11+1 Divine Favor 6+1 Healing prayers (just to make signet of rejuvenation a bit more effective, the loss in divine favor bonus is, like always, neglectible) Equipment: 1. +5e +30 HP weapon with a shield (pref. with +10 vs fire) 2. Staff with +20% enchanting mod and faster recharge mods to switch to if you’re using aegis. 3. +15/-1 energy regen wand and offhand (emergecies when you run low on energy, but thats rare). Your job: Your most important job is to make sure the SY para stays clean of dangerous hexes. Most dangerous hexes are: Soothing Images, Blurred Vision, Fainthedartness, Shadow of Fear, and Spirit Shackles. These should be removed ASAP! Therefore, the SY para needs to call if he got any of these hexes on himself. Many times, these hexes can get buried quick under other hexes, but with Divert Hexes you have a good chance to still have it removed. Also, you need to remove blind (only blind from the SY, or dazed from another character) from the SY para with dismiss condition. If the SY para is safe from hexes/condition, you should focus on the other physicals. However, the SY is you FIRST priority ALWAYS. Rest of the skills are pretty obvious; use soa (maybe even ps) on targets who are taking much focused damage (always watch the battlefield to be 1 step quicker than the enemy). This character should also use Aegis on the start of the battle (w oh chains as second). Use signet of rejuvenation if you need energy (with lyric of zeal from para). W O H monk  Word of Healing: Chosen over HB because it's better, and lets you spec in prot. Dwayna’s kiss: Powerheal Signet of Rejuvenation: Free heal and E-management with para shout, or shielding hands if you feel you don't run out of energy. Heal party: handle party wide degen and damage Seed of life: Good party heal if used on the right person Dismiss Condition: remove dangerous conditions like blind/daze Glyph of lesser energy: obvious reasons Aegis: Physical shutdown, you need to chain it with other monk 12+1+1 Healing Prayers (NO superior rune) 8+1 Protection Prayers (breakpoint for 9 sec Aegis) Rest in divine (about 10+1) Equipment: Same as Divert Hexes monk (see above). Your job: Your job should be more focused on the other characters. Remove dangerous conditions like blind/daze from them. Chain Aegis after the first one has dropped. Lots of degen needs HP (don’t try to remove these conditions since they are reapplied very soon after). Cure Hex might be a better option for Dwayna’s kiss (w oh is enough healing power on his own, with cure hex you are also able to keep the others clean). Use signet of rejuvenation as a good heal, which also gives you energy back. Seed of life on allies who take much focused damage. Cruel Spear  Swift Javelin: Great unblockable damage since you have orders. Wild throw: Unblockable damage which removes stance from targets if they have: whirling defense on tuks, and lightning reflexes on the big bone fiends for example) Cruel Spear Ranged Eviscerate is gud. I Am The strongest: Extra armor ignoring damage is always good. Lyric of Zeal: battery for casters (that's why they have signets) and your adrenaline to energy converter Aria of Zeal: battery for casters Drunken Master: IAS + speedbuff, together with Essence you have 33% Signet of return: rez, obvious, altho you aren't the primary rezzer 10+1 Motivation 11+1 Leadership Rest +1+1 Spear mastery (about 10+1+1) Equipment: fortitude mods, clearity rune on armor, shield with +10 vs fire and your main shield with -20% blind duration. I personally like Vamp mod on spear. Your job is to kill things. With a spear you have the advantage of switching targets quick, so you're able of dissing out alot of damage. Make sure casters don’t run out of energy too quick so spam aria+lyric of zeal. SY! Para  Swift Javelin: great damage Vicious attack: damage + potential deep wound I Am The Strongest Save yourselves! There’s nothing to fear! Focused anger Drunken Master Signet of return 12+1+1 Spear Mastery 11+1 Leadership 6+1 Command/leadership (get a req7 15 AL shield, otherwise don’t meet req’s) Equipment: same as other para (important to have -20% blind shield and clearity rune!) Your job: Try to have SY! Up all the time, also use There’s nothing to fear when it’s ready. With focused anger and essence of celerity you have 100% of the time double adrenaline. Drunken master is IAS and speedbuff. IMPORTANT: call dangerous hexes and conditions with are preventing you from doing your job; Blurred Vision/Soothing images/fainthedartness/shadow of fear/spirit shackles/blind. So good communication with your divert monk is required. With 14 spear mastery you have good chance of critical with vicious attack. Also, with great dwarf weapon, ebon battle standard of honor and I am the strongest, + an attack skill you are doing about 70 ARMOR IGNORING damage, so with LB title and base attack you can achieve around 100 dmg each hit. At a 33% attack rate that’s pretty sick. Eviscerate Warrior  You move like a dwarf: KD + damage Eviscerate: obvious Executioners strike: more obvious (together with eviscerate the biggest spike in game) Body Blow: Same as executioners strike Whirlwind attack (or cyclone axe): building adrenaline quick, and great damage numbers with splinter weapon For greater justice: obvious Drunken master: IAS Death pact signet: obvious 12+1+1 Axe mastery 12+1 strenght Equipment: fortitude mods, rune of clarity and -20% blind shield, +10 vs fire/lightning shield as 2nd one, longbow for luring, stonefist (if you move like a dwarf is on your bar) Your job is to spike enemy key targets while doing steady and great DPS. Unlike pvp there’s no need to build up adrenaline against other targets first, so go straight for your target (monk/Mesmer/necro/water ele). Eviscerate + Executioners strike is a powerful tool which you should use as soon as it fills. Idem with body blow. Call dangerous hexes so the WoH monk can respond, or the necro. Earth shaker warrior  Earth shaker: aoe kd Crushing blow: deepwound + damage Crude swing: adrenaline filler aswell as good dmg Whirlwind attack: same For greater justice: obvious Drunken master: ias Sight beyond sight: counter against blind spam Death pact signet: rezzzzzzzz 12+1+1 Hammer mastery Rest in strength Equipment: same as eviscerate warrior, + stone fist insignia. Maybe zealous hammer. You can completely shut down a bunch of enemies. With FGJ and 2 aoe attacks, you can have Earth shaker filled most of the time. If the eviscerate warrior is a dervish secondary, you are the primary rezzer. Call dangerous hexes, so the w oh monk can respond, or the necro. Signet of removal Necro  Dark fury: great Order of pain: great Signet of removal: remove hexes/conditions if orders are up Smite hex: remove hex without need of enchantment, and get extra damage Great dwarf weapon: Goooooood damage (or rebirth if you want an extra emergency hard rez and some1 else has great dwarf, otherwise remove hex) Masochism: good for your energy Strenght of honor: good buff Blood renewal: keep your HP up 11+1+1 Blood Magic 8+1 soul reaping 11 smiting prayers Try to have your dwarf rank near max, or even better maxed out already  Equipment: fortitude mods on offhands+shields (+10 vs fire/lightning), survivors insignia (or maybe tormented). Your job is to try to make sure orders are up all the time, which is not hard. When party members are under the effects of an enchantment (one of your orders) you can remove hexes and conditions from them. So try to do this ASAP, especially from targets other than the SY para (since the divert watches him, but in the cave in Gloom its wise to also watch the SY para). Maintain strenght of honor on the eviscerate warrior. Use great dwarf weapon on both the para's. Mindblast Ele  Fire attunement: good enough Mindblast: obviously, (one of the) best energy engine's in game, the added damage is a bonus You move like a dwarf: kd + dmg Technobabble: daze is gud (otherwise rodgorts invocation) Ebon battle standard of honor: great damage buff Splinter weapon: maintain on warriors Ancestor’s rage: good damage Flesh of my flesh: rezerderezz 12+1+1 Fire magic 9+1 Energy storage 10 channeling magic Equipment: fortitude mods, normal energy set and +15/-1 wand+offhand (so mindblast can replenish your energy if you’ve run too low). Your job is to do some damage, but mainly to maintain splinter on the earthshaker, or the eviscerate warrior. Ebon battle standard of honor to increase the damage of the paragons and yourself, so try to have it up all the time. Mindblast on low energy targets (warrior/dervish/para/ranger) for your energy. Use You Move Like a Dwarf as an interrupt, or just to KD targets (like monks, to kill them quickly). Use ancestors rage on your warriors. IMPORTANT: Maintain ebon battle standard of honor AT ALL TIMES (stay near paragons), maintain splinter weapon on the 2 warriors (they both also have AoE attacks which rocks with splinter weapon). You can choose to bring great dwarf weapon instead of you move like a dwarf, or technobabble. If you bring it, let the necro maintain great dwarf weapon on both the para's, and you maintain it on the eviscerate warrior (while using splinter weapon on the eathshaker warrior). 2. The armies and priorities Margonites: Margonite Anur Vu Warrior – Damage and some KD Margonite Anur Tuk Ranger - Spirits Margonite Anur Ki Monk – HB healer Margonite Anur Dabi Necromancer – Potential Para shutdown Margonite Anur Kaya Mesmer – Energy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOer Margonite Anur Su Elementalist – Lighting with Gale Margonite Anur Ruk Dervish – Minor healer Margonite Anur Rund Paragon – Bad damager Priorities 1. The Ki’s are the (HB) monks of this army. Great healing capacities so obviously we need to take them down first. At the start of the battle, the Eviscerate warrior should go to this one, also the Empathic removal paragon should attack him as well as the Elementalist should unleash his spells/skills on this target. High damage from axe and spear, a deep wound, burning and pressure, as well as ‘you move like a dwarf’ should finish this target off quick enough. 2. The Dabi’s should also be taken care off rather quick. They shut down the paragons, including our main defense, Save Yourselves! With their Vocal Minority. At the start of the battle, the Earth shaker warrior as well as the SY! Para should go to this target. Once the monk is down, this one should be death soon after (or maybe already death). If the monk is down, and this one not, the Empathic removal Para should help bring this target down. 3. The Kaya’s are priority nr.3. They RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with our energy (especially spirit shackles), thus making them also annoying enemies. Once the Ki’s are death, the Eviscerate warrior should move to this target. So does the Elementalist. It should also fall quickly. The 2 Para should also move to this one once their initial jobs are done. 4. While priorities 1-3 could potentially shut the party down, the other Margonites shouldn’t pose a real threat anymore. Nr.4 should therefore be the Tuk. With his QZ spirit he could (although unlikely) screw some E-management up. The Empathic removal para should target this target after the first 3 are taken care of, because the Tuk uses lightning reflexes and the para can end this stance by using wildthrow. 5. The Su has some annoying KD’s using Gale. So this targets comes after people have taken care of the ranger. His damage shouldn’t pose a threat btw, because SY! Is (hopefully) up all the time. 6. The Ruk should be targeted now, because he has some (minor) healing. Eviscerate warrior should use deep wound (20% reduction in his healing). And just keep bashing away on him. 7. The Vu. Not the most dangerous target, and is shut-down already by reckless haste/enfeebling blood/Aegis chain. And of course kiting people. 8. The Rund. Just not dangerous. Torment Creatures: a lot of hexes. Flesh Tormentor Warrior with prot shouts. Spirit Tormentor Degen ranger Heart Tormentor Healer Soul Tormentor Anti-melee necro Mind Tormentor Degen Mesmer with Soothin Images Water TormentorSlow down with Blurred Vision Sanity TormentorParagon with dazed Earth TormentroCondition Dervish Priorities 1. Heart tormentor: the monks of this army. Take it down in order to take down the others. Same people attack this one as did the Margonite Ki (Eviscerate, Empathic and Ele). Should fall down quick enough because doesn’t have great healing capacity (only divine boon). 2. Mind tormentor: is able to shut down the para’s (with soothing images; no adrenaline means no shouting, no SY is loss of a lot defense). SY para and earthshaker warrior should move to this one immediately. 3. Water tormentor: Blurred vision can be a pain. Eviscerate should sit on his face after he took care of the Heart tormentor. So does the El. 4. Soul Tormentor: fainthedartness and shadow of fear can be annoying. Also some pressure by Corrupt Enchant. SY para and Earth shaker move to this one after they killed the Mind tormentor. 5. Flesh tormentor: his protectors defense and watch yourself aid his party very well. 6. Sanity Tormentor: if he is able to get daze off, its annoying. Rest is nothing to be afraid of. 7. Earth Tormentor: Deep wounds can be annoying. 8. Spirit Tormentor: his degen is countered easily by party heals. Titans: Blinds Misery Titan KD warrior. Despair Titan Degen Necro Anguish Titan Mesmer Rage Titan Nasty Blinders Fury Titan AoE madness with death blossom Dementia Titan Condition Dervish with Blinds Take note, if encountering Titans, we should kill them 1 by 1 (when their last form is killed, move to the other forms). We don’t want more than 1 or 2 rage/dementia/fury titans, we only make it ourselves unnecessary hard. Priorities 1. When encountering a Rage titan, it should be killed first. The blind it does is really, really annoying. Everyone should kill same target. 2. When there are Dementia Titans, they should be killed if no Rage titans are around. Their blinding can be annoying. 3. When there are no dementia or rage titans, people should kill Fury titans. Their armor ignoring AoE damage can add up. 4. Despair titans 5. Anguish titans 6. Misery titans When encountering dryders + greater dream riders, kill the dream riders first. The damage from SF shouldn’t be too high with SY up. Stygians: Priorities 1. Hunger: those nasty touchers, just as gay as touch rangers. 2. Brute 3. Fiend 4. Golem 5. Horror The Earth Shaker warrior can shut down a whole group of hungers (who are most dangerous) when they’re in 1 spot, than it’s also easy to have earth shaker charged almost all the time. This is the only important thing. As long as the hungers can't touch you and are on their asses, this army poses no threat. Watch out for the daze of the fiends tho, they have concussion shot so casters should be in frontline (but thats logical). 3. Rezzing: The cruel spear paragon (or in latest version, the necro weapon spam) should be the primary rezzer. If he somehow can't do it, the elementalist (or in latest version,the eartshaker warrior) should take over his job, and otherwise the warriors (in latest version, the order). 4. Last thing. The route is pretty standard and won't be covered in this guide, as I'm sure almost everyone knows where to go and what to do. Besides that, if played right DoA shouldn't be hard at all. Only tricky part is the cave in Gloom, one tactic to proceed is to let the 2 warriors and the cruel spear para try to block all enemies, that way its harder for anything to reach the SY para (and hexes most probably land on that trio instead of the SY para). Kill fast, know priorities and don't panic. Than this should be easy. It's also possible to bring other professions: 5. Latest build version: As we try to improve the build all the time, this section contains the latest version of the DoA build.  Replaced the cruel spear para with a scythe sin, and the mindblast ele with an offering of spirit necro who spams the weapon spells. Because there's no cruel spear paragon support (for the energy), the necro uses blood ritual on the monks for the times (mainly cave in gloom) the monks need a boost in their energy. He also has foul feast which is handy for the conditions (and the woh monk can drop 1 condition remover for remove hex). The necro weaponspammer uses splinter weapon on (only) the scythe sin (as he always goes for clumbed up groups so his scythe can hit multiple targets) and the necro uses great dwarf weapon on the other 3 physicals. Strenght of honor should be on the scythe sin and the moebius sin. Only on the ES warrior if you feel you can manage the energy  Because of the change of characters, here their priorities in the guide above: the scythe sin goes for clumbed up enemies (like said), moebius sin takes the job of the eviscerate. Rest stays the same Variants  These are variants. NOT recommended to run them, but it's possible. 6.Q/A Why use this build and not ursan? - Ursan is for unexperienced people and its boring. It ignores all challenges an area can bring you. Also, bashing your keys to use skill 1-2-3 doesn’t require any skill and is therefore really boring. This build requires a bit of skill (not too much tho) and is therefore a lot more fun to play. Also, we are an elite guild so we shouldn’t lower us to using mindless (PuG) builds :P Is it just as effective as ursan? - Yes. Even more effective since it’s not as fragile, and 3 monks were always too much (except for near whipes, but that’s due to the fragility of ursan; this build isn’t fragile at all with all the support spread out over the characters, and of course we have para’s). Also, our physicals are easily able to out damage ursan: on the para’s around 100 damage each hit (depending on titles), with an IAS, not even to count in splinter weapons etc. No way ursans can do the same. Is there room for other professions? - Yes, I’ve based this build on IM-way. The only profs that are really needed are the 2 monks and the SY para. However, I’ve figured this set up is theoretically the most effective, so we should always strive to have this exact set up. Is there room for other skills? - Most likely not. Every skill has been thought about more than enough to be sure this is the most effective. Last edited by Koning; Oct 03, 2008 at 01:38 PM // 13:38.. Reason: Original post disappeared. |
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Aug 11, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Guild: Your Monk is [MIA]
Profession: E/Me
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nice guide this should be helpful for people who can't think of anything else except ursan
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Aug 11, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Me/
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Why [mindblast] over [ether renewal] ?
Mindblast +Spamable -Easy to interrupt Ether renewal +more energy -strippable |
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Aug 11, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Belfast - Northern Ireland
Profession: D/W
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Looks good, Doubt I'll find anyone to do it with though.
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Aug 11, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Aug 11, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: Shadow Knights of Legend
Profession: A/W
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before ursan was nerfed I ran a build in doa alongside ursan and the funny thing was people kept noticing how much damage it did and how much faster the runs were going. after the nerf the build is still as effective, but less people to run it with, so i wonder if it might find room in a team build like this
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0314364&page=2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OK9__hofi0 the basic idea is to hit enemies with Pain Inverter (PI), Assassins Promise (AP), then Finish Him (FH) for quick kills. Due to the high damage output of the enemies in doa this leads to the sins ability to "spam" pain inverter/finish him combos on multiple enemies in quick succession. Now if you are trying to make it fit into the team build, a necro or an ele could run a basic ap bar like the one described above and be just as effective. |
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Aug 11, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Actually discussed that before, but it turned out that your energy should be just fine with mind blast. You have 2 5 energy spells, 2 10 energy spells and 1 non spammable 15e spell. Mindblast should do fine for that. Ether renewal works too, however there's not really a way of spending all the energy you get from it. However, I'm the last one who will ever tell you certainly not to bring it because it's bad
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Aug 11, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Land of Hyrule
Guild: [GoE]
Profession: W/
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Nice, you posted it on guru as fast as you could xD
Hope people start using it, remember it's by GoE xD |
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Aug 11, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Great work Koning.
We've been running something similar and it works so well. Proper placement is fairly necessary with this build; pinning mobs onto corners with Earthshaker knock-locks are /win. |
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Aug 11, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: Temple Of Love
Profession: R/E
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Semms good would like to know how mutch time this run take in NM and HM ... honestly i think key for balanced team for DoA must be found in asuran / dwarf / norn / Vanguard skills ....
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Aug 11, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: By the Luxon Scavenger
Guild: The Mentalists [THPK]
Profession: N/
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So we're back to what people were using before...
But I doubt it works on mallyx with that order necro Last edited by Turbobusa; Aug 11, 2008 at 05:29 PM // 17:29.. |
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Aug 11, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
Guild: [OhNo]
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With a fast moving Ursan team in Normal mode you could do a whole quad run in less than 2 hours. For a HM team it may take 2.5 hours. How does this team compare to those times?
Also, I would expect that the warriers to should try to maintain aggro on them and keep the softer caster classes in the back protected. Also there are good routes and techniques for each part of each quest that make things go faster, so I image these should be employed as well correct. For example the rift in gloom, the fastest technique is, after kill all the patrols and line around it, for the whole team to go under the rift to cap it before the spawn come in. Then must run west from the spawns after its capped. I think there are a number of team builds that can do DOA in NM, this being one of them. The biggest difficulty with PUG groups is fast grouping. With Ursan it was easy, now it takes folks to know the team they are joining and to skill up and know what they should do after they skill up, which may be a lot to ask for some members. |
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Aug 11, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Me/
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Made by GoE, sold by Koning, used by everyone.
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Aug 11, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2008
Profession: W/
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Looks good, am i right in thinking this takes a lot of coordination?
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Aug 11, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Quote:
 Only real blocking is that of the stygian hungers. You want the earthshaker to KD them all, because letting them touch your whole party is pretty nasty. Also in the cave in gloom it might help, but for the rest your 'squishies' have 100 extra armor all the time so there's no need to block. Quote:
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Aug 11, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12
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Did I hear 7 heroes?
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)
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Your SY! paragon has 4 PvE skills.
Your necro has 11 smiting prayers. The pictures need an update. Last edited by Racthoh; Aug 11, 2008 at 07:16 PM // 19:16.. |
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Aug 11, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Argh, you're right Racthoh :P pics were from an ealier version of the guide. Version now is agressive refrain instead of drunken master, and swift javelin instead of spear of lighting (so that you benefit from orders). Also, the necro picture shows remove hex (which should be smite hex) and holy veil (which should be strenght of honor).
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Aug 11, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Hrvatska
Profession: N/Me
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GoE is imba...
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Aug 11, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Belgium
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Yeeey paragons !
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Aug 11, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minnesota
Guild: [OhNo]
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I have to say I wished averyone, even before, read your guide on targetting, as that's the way folks should think and do it. I especially like the Large Titan comments, as I saw to often the mindless ursan take all the large titans down only to find 4 or 5 rages killing the team, since they broke them down all at once, instead of one at a time.
I also like my paragon, as Imbagon, or variation on this can be very useful for most teams. I think there are a number of teams that can do DOA in NM. I see cryway and ritway teams going, and now we may have another type with this team. Problem is quickly forming a team. I hope in GW2 they do something about that, as I enjoy playing with real people and dread team formation, examining builds etc. Playing with real people is the only thing keeping me coming back to GW. What I dislike more than Ursan etc, is playing with heros as then I might as well be playing a single player game. |
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